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# Re: Cards Cast, Ballots Cast, and Times Counted

- To: <support@gesn.com>
- Subject: Re: Cards Cast, Ballots Cast, and Times Counted
- From: "Steve Knecht" <skglobal@earthlink.net>
- Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 15:24:28 -0800
- References: <ONECJGKFFNIOEONKIJAIOEJJCFAA.jmglobal@earthlink.net>

    Are you using GEMS?  I guess you must not be, otherwise you'd just uncheck
    the cards cast box?

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: John McLaurin <jmglobal@earthlink.net>
    To: Support <support@gesn.com>
    Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 2:19 PM
    Subject: FW: Cards Cast, Ballots Cast, and Times Counted

    >
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Beth Kish [mailto:bkish@cobbcounty.org]
    > Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 12:32 PM
    > To: McLaurinJ; Tyler
    > Subject: Re: Cards Cast, Ballots Cast, and Times Counted
    >
    > Tyler,
    > I understand your answer, but it doesn't seem to explain the discrepancy
    in
    > this case.  There was only 1 card to each ballot.
    >
    > I am attaching the database.  This was a recount in only 1 district.
    > Georgia law does not allow the "program" to be changed, so all the base
    > precincts and all the races are still there, and we just report on the one
    > race in the one district.  To recreate what I have printed, go to the
    SOVC.
    > In Districts select "32nd House", in Reporting sets select "Recount 32nd
    > House".  Then under show, select everything.  On mine, Cards Cast is
    12,424
    > and Times Counted is 12,422.  The higher number is "correct", i.e. matches
    > the Accu-Vote tapes.  The lower number is what prints on the Summary
    > reports, and therefore I can't release them until I get this figured out.
    > Thank you very much for your help!
    >
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: Mike Brown <mike@gesn.com>
    > To: <bkish@cobbcounty.org>
    > Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 11:48 AM
    > Subject: FW: Cards Cast, Ballots Cast, and Times Counted
    >
    >
    > >
    > >
    > > Mike Brown
    > > 1611 Wilmeth Road,
    > > McKinney, T.X.
    > > 75069
    > > PH: 972.542.6000
    > > FX: 972.542.6044
    > >
    > >
    > > -----Original Message-----
    > > From: owner-support@gesn.com [mailto:owner-support@gesn.com]On Behalf Of
    > > Tyler Links
    > > Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 10:25 AM
    > > To: support@gesn.com
    > > Subject: RE: Cards Cast, Ballots Cast, and Times Counted
    > >
    > >
    > > These three things are similar, but subtly different.
    > >
    > > Cards Cast and Ballots Cast are different from one another only if the
    > > jurisdiction has two-card ballots.  Two-card ballots are more the
    > exception
    > > than the rule (my regards to those of you who support elections "out
    West"
    > > i.e. Colorado, Arizona, California, Washington, etc.), therefore Cards
    > Cast
    > > and Ballots Cast are often interchangeable.
    > >
    > > Times Counted means the number of times that the race in question was
    read
    > > by an Accu-Vote (whether it had a valid vote or not).  If the race is
    > > jurisdiction-wide (on all ballots), then the times counted for the race
    > > should match the Ballots Cast.  If the race is not jurisdiction wide and
    > > does not appear on all ballots/cards, then the Times Counted could be
    > > different from Ballots Cast.
    > >
    > > Clear as mud?
    > >
    > > Tyler
    > >
    > >
    > >
    >

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  - FW: Cards Cast, Ballots Cast, and Times Counted
    - From: "John McLaurin" <jmglobal@earthlink.net>

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