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# RE: Hamilton Recount - Ward 9 Councillor

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- Subject: RE: Hamilton Recount - Ward 9 Councillor
- From: "John McLaurin" <jmglobal@earthlink.net>
- Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 11:33:22 -0500
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I assume you mean the Election Day SOVC vs. the recount SOVC? I guess what I’m getting at is this – in the numerous Florida recounts we had many situations where the Ballot Accounting Forms and Accu Vote tapes did not match. When we reprocessed the ballots at the precinct level, we did come up with again a third differentiating number of ballots cast in some precincts and overall. Every one of these situations was explained by either mishandling of jammed ballots to the increase or decrease of ballots cast, voter walkouts or marginal marks in the race(s). I think it’s important to remember that one purpose of the recount is to find mishandled and marginally marked ballots from election day. That’s a positive. Spun the right way changes in the count are not only expected, but are explainable and can add legitimacy to our accuracy. -----Original Message----- From: owner-support@gesn.com [mailto:owner-support@gesn.com]On Behalf Of Greg Forsythe Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 11:18 AM To: support@gesn.com Subject: Re: Hamilton Recount - Ward 9 Councillor Hi John Thanks for showing an interest. The SOVC will show the changes Accu-Vote by Accu-Vote. Greg ----- Original Message ----- From: John McLaurin To: support@gesn.com Sent: December 8, 2000 10:58 AM Subject: RE: Hamilton Recount - Ward 9 Councillor Is a change of six ballots in seven precincts when 7K plus ballots were counted necessarily dropped ballots when you factor in operator/poll worker error in handling jammed ballots? -----Original Message----- From: owner-support@gesn.com [mailto:owner-support@gesn.com]On Behalf Of Greg Forsythe Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 10:13 AM To: Support Subject: Hamilton Recount - Ward 9 Councillor Eight Accu-Votes were used in Ward 9. One Advance Poll and seven election day polls. The 8 Accu-Votes in Ward 9 counted 7,652 ballots with 159 Blank Voted on election day. Ballot boxes sealed. The same 8 Accu-Votes counted 7,658 ballots with 119 Blank Voted for the Recount. The first place candidate received 22 additional votes, second place candidate increased by 14 votes and third place increased by 10 votes. Although the winner remained, the difference increased from 64 votes to 72 votes. Conclusion - There were 6 dropped ballots and 46 votes not counted on election day that were subsequently counted when the race was isolated. The ovals were separate and red, not thick. Pens were Sanford Express Medium tip. They should have been bold tip. Ballots were cut showing timing marks in four corners. There were some that were not cut correctly and were culled before the election. Scary stuff. Greg Forsythe Global Election Systems, Inc 24 Hirondelle Place, Toronto, Ontario M3A 1V8 Phone (416) 446-1383 Fax (416) 446-1425 gfglobal@earthlink.net www.gesn.com

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