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# RE: Ballot Receipt Printer NOW required in California

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- Subject: RE: Ballot Receipt Printer NOW required in California
- From: "Steve Knecht" <skglobal@earthlink.net>
- Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 16:27:20 -0800
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- In-reply-to: <JMELKNGEDGDDPEHFLMJJGEDMCGAA.ian@dieboldes.com>

Let's be clear. The SOS came out in support of receipt. He is going to have to have some committee research this. But this isn't a done deal yet. There are plenty of folks in election admin against this, but the press has gotten ahold of this and is giving alot of air time to it. Our own security issues have not helped the "crackpots". For counties where the feds have dictated languages, we need the touch screen. But clearly OS is the way to go for some counties. I'll just remind you of the "internet" issue 3-4 years ago. Until they put together the committee at the SOS level, it sounded like they would go full steam into this, but once people were educated, they backed off. We still may have that opportunity. I hope. Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-support@dieboldes.com [mailto:owner-support@dieboldes.com]On Behalf Of Ian S. Piper Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 3:10 PM To: support@dieboldes.com Subject: RE: Ballot Receipt Printer NOW required in California What makes you think the strips of paper will only be six inches. What would be a logistical nightmare is having to recount those "official" ballot receipts. Unless they were printed on some card stock for processing through a scanner or had the ballot data embedded in a bar code, these ballot receipts would have to hand counted. It sounds like those who'd advocate a ballot receipt would rather use an optical scan system for voting. Ian -----Original Message----- From: owner-support@dieboldes.com [mailto:owner-support@dieboldes.com]On Behalf Of Ken Clark Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 5:08 PM To: support@dieboldes.com Subject: RE: Ballot Receipt Printer NOW required in California I think the key has to be the election officials themselves. We (the vendors) can’t effectively argue our case since we are simply seen as self-serving. All these MIT/Caltech/Stanford ‘experts’ have never run an election and have never created an election system, but people will listen to them anyway. And I won’t even discuss the crackpots. The officials, however, know the score. If this goes the full Mercury Method, where the voter can change their mind after their receipt was printed, that would pretty mean the end of electronic DRE I think. Can you imagine two million six-inch strips of paper in Los Angeles County? While I cannot speak for her, I can’t imagine someone like Connie McCormack ever letting that happen. Ken -----Original Message----- From: owner-support@dieboldes.com [mailto:owner-support@dieboldes.com] On Behalf Of Steve Knecht Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 1:28 PM To: support@dieboldes.com Subject: RE: Ballot Receipt Printer NOW required in California [excellent list of questions deleted] I wonder: · how do you stop this steamroller from happening?

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